EMDR and DBT Therapy: Sequencing Trauma Work With Skills Training

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EMDR and DBT Therapy: Sequencing Trauma Work With Skills Training

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If you treat trauma, you have probably had some version of this conversation with yourself: a client is ready and motivated, but their emotional regulation is shaky enough that you hesitate to start reprocessing. Or you are a DBT therapist whose client finished skills group and is still carrying trauma that the group isn’t equipped to resolve. EMDR and DBT therapy sit on opposite sides of a question that comes up constantly in complex trauma work: when do you build capacity, and when do you process the memory itself?

This article is for two audiences asking versions of the same question from different directions. Trauma therapists fluent in EMDR are wondering whether DBT skills belong in their toolbox. DBT therapists are wondering whether EMDR training would let them do more for clients whose trauma has never been directly addressed. Neither group needs a primer on PTSD. What both need is a clearer picture of how EMDR and DBT therapy can be sequenced or combined, and an honest look at what the research on this combination actually shows.

How Can EMDR and DBT Therapy Work Together?

EMDR and DBT therapy can work together in at least three ways: DBT skills training delivered before EMDR to build a foundation for trauma processing, DBT skills used alongside EMDR to support a client through it, and DBT as an ongoing framework a client draws on after trauma processing ends. No single approach has been established as superior, and none should be treated as a fixed rule for every client.

The clinical logic behind EMDR and DBT therapy is straightforward. DBT was built to address the emotion dysregulation, dissociation, and behavioral instability that can make trauma processing risky to start without preparation. EMDR was built to directly target the memory networks that DBT skills training does not reach. For clients who need both, the practical question has always been which order to use them in, and whether one is a strict prerequisite for the other. Recent research has started to test this directly, though the evidence base for combining EMDR and DBT therapy is new and specific to a narrow slice of the trauma population.

Does Every Client Need DBT Skills Before EMDR?

No. There is no evidence that every trauma client needs DBT skills training before starting EMDR, and treating stabilization as a mandatory gate has its own costs. Clients can wait months for trauma work that could have started sooner, and extended stabilization phases sometimes function as a way to avoid the discomfort of trauma processing rather than as genuine clinical necessity.

At the same time, dismissing stabilization as irrelevant would be its own mistake. Clients vary in how much capacity they bring to EMDR and DBT therapy on day one. Someone with a single-incident trauma and strong baseline functioning may be ready for EMDR with standard preparation. Someone with longstanding dysregulation, dissociation, or a history of self-harm may need more groundwork before reprocessing proceeds safely. The clinical skill is telling these apart rather than defaulting to either extreme.

What Does Research Say About Sequencing DBT and EMDR?

Not much yet, and what exists comes almost entirely from patients with borderline personality disorder and psychological trauma, not trauma clients broadly.

A 2026 feasibility randomized trial in Borderline Personality Disorder and Emotion Dysregulation offers the most direct test of sequential EMDR and DBT therapy to date. Researchers at a specialized BPD unit in Spain enrolled 42 participants with BPD and psychological trauma. All completed six months of DBT skills training first, then were randomized to continue skills training or move into up to 16 sessions of individual EMDR. This is a feasibility trial: its purpose was to test whether the design works, not to establish effectiveness. The authors are explicit that a definitive, adequately powered trial is still needed.

Retention across the full sequence was 62 percent, comparable to or better than similar interventions for this population, and retention during the second phase did not differ significantly between the group that continued DBT and the group that moved into EMDR. Both conditions showed significant reductions in borderline symptoms. On dissociation, the pattern diverged: only the DBT-then-EMDR group showed a statistically significant reduction from baseline, while the DBT-only group did not. The authors frame this as a secondary, exploratory finding from a small trial with unequal dosage between arms, not confirmed evidence that sequencing itself drove the difference.

The qualitative data add texture, worth distinguishing from the statistical results. Researchers interviewed a subset who completed DBT followed by EMDR. All described the sequence as beneficial, and several said they would not have felt able to engage with trauma processing had it come first, before learning skills for managing dysregulation. This comes from seven of eighteen participants, not a controlled comparison, and those who agreed to be interviewed were more likely to be people who felt they had benefited.

A second relevant paper, a 2020 study protocol in BMC Psychiatry, describes a randomized controlled trial comparing integrated EMDR-DBT against EMDR alone in patients with PTSD and comorbid (sub)clinical BPD. It is important to be precise about what this paper is: a study design, not a results paper. It lays out the rationale for the comparison and the hypotheses researchers intended to test, including that integrated treatment would produce a larger effect size. None of this is evidence that integrated EMDR-DBT therapy is more effective, safer, or more cost-effective than EMDR alone. It shows that researchers considered the comparison important enough to design a trial around, and that whether adding DBT components improves outcomes here remains genuinely open.

Together, these two papers show that sequential and integrated models of EMDR and DBT therapy are being taken seriously enough to study, that a sequential approach was feasible and acceptable in a specialized BPD sample, and that real questions about dissociation, dosage, and long-term outcomes remain unanswered. They do not tell us how trauma clients without BPD would respond, and generalizing beyond the populations studied would overstate what the research supports.

What Does “Readiness” for Trauma Processing Actually Mean?

Readiness is not a single threshold a client meets or fails to meet. It is a working judgment about whether a client has enough capacity to engage with trauma material without being retraumatized, and that capacity shifts over treatment.

Several factors typically inform this judgment when weighing EMDR and DBT therapy for a given client: baseline emotion regulation, the presence and severity of dissociation, current safety concerns, the strength of the therapeutic alliance, and the client’s own goals. None operates as a rigid checklist. A client with some dissociative symptoms and a strong alliance may be appropriately ready for carefully paced EMDR; a client with milder symptoms but an unstable living situation may need more groundwork first. Clinical judgment and ongoing monitoring matter more here than any fixed formula.

This is where the window of tolerance becomes useful. It describes the zone of arousal within which a client can stay present without becoming flooded or shutting down. EMDR reprocessing generally works best when a client is activated enough to engage the target memory but not so far outside their window that dual awareness is lost. Clients with narrower windows, often shaped by chronic or early relational trauma, may benefit from deliberate work expanding that window before or alongside trauma processing. This is a clinical consideration, not an argument for a universal prerequisite phase.

How Do DBT’s Four Skills Areas Support Trauma Work?

DBT skills training covers four domains, each mapping onto a plausible role supporting trauma-focused work, though direct evidence in EMDR specifically remains limited to the studies above. Mindfulness builds the capacity to notice internal experience without immediately reacting, supporting the dual awareness EMDR reprocessing depends on. Distress tolerance gives clients tools for managing activation between sessions, since trauma material does not always stay contained to the therapy hour. Emotion regulation addresses vulnerability factors, such as poor sleep or substance use, that leave a nervous system less able to tolerate processing. Interpersonal effectiveness supports outside relationships, which matters because trauma processing tends to go better with people to lean on.

A clinician-written piece from the Institute for Creative Mindfulness, by EMDR and DBT-trained therapist Rachel Weaver, offers one practitioner’s framework for aligning DBT’s four skill areas with EMDR’s eight phases: pairing DBT psychoeducation with history-taking, skills training with preparation, and diary card review with reevaluation, for example. This illustrates how one experienced clinician conceptualizes EMDR and DBT therapy across the treatment arc; it is not a validated protocol or evidence that this particular mapping improves outcomes. Clinicians drawing on frameworks like this should treat them as a starting point for reasoning, not a fixed structure to apply uniformly.

How Should Clinicians Decide When a Client Is Ready for Trauma Work?

No formula replaces individualized assessment, but a few questions organize the decision well. Can the client manage acute distress between sessions without self-harm? Is the alliance strong enough to support activation during reprocessing? Are there active safety concerns needing attention first? Does the client have outside supports? And what does the client want, weighed against the discomfort of waiting versus starting before they feel ready?

A clinician-facing resource from the Trauma Therapist Institute, titled “Why Stabilization Comes First,” argues that DBT skills function as a scaffold that should generally precede trauma processing for high-risk, complex trauma clients, citing case examples where pausing EMDR to build DBT-informed stabilization allowed reprocessing to proceed more safely once resumed. This is a coherent perspective from practitioners working with high-acuity populations, and its underlying caution, that jumping into reprocessing without preparation can retraumatize rather than heal, is worth taking seriously. But it is a practitioner’s framework, not a peer-reviewed finding. A more measured view: stabilization is often clinically important, particularly for clients with significant dissociation or behavioral instability, without functioning as a universal prerequisite before starting EMDR and DBT therapy together or in sequence. Some clients are ready sooner than a rigid staging model suggests, and treating stabilization as an indefinite holding pattern can itself become a barrier to the trauma processing a client is asking for.

Can DBT Skills Support Clients During EMDR Processing?

Yes, and this may be one of the more durable applications of EMDR and DBT therapy, independent of how sequencing is handled. A client who has learned distress tolerance has something concrete to reach for when trauma material surfaces outside of session. A client with emotion regulation skills is less likely to arrive at an EMDR session already depleted by unmanaged vulnerability factors. A client with mindfulness skills has an easier time staying oriented during dual attention.

This does not require becoming a certified DBT provider. Weaving core skills, such as paced breathing, grounding, or brief mindfulness orientation, into standard EMDR preparation is a modest, learnable addition to trauma therapy skills training rather than a wholesale change in practice. The value lies in giving clients more tools between sessions and more stability during processing, regardless of which modality came first.

What Can EMDR Therapists Learn From DBT?

EMDR therapists exploring EMDR and DBT therapy can gain a structured way of thinking about emotion regulation and distress tolerance that many EMDR trainings do not cover in depth. Even clinicians who never intend to deliver full-model DBT can benefit from understanding its core skills well enough to teach and reinforce them with clients who need more between-session support than standard trauma therapy skills training typically provides. This matters most for clients with a significant trauma history, borderline personality disorder features, or dissociation, where added structure makes the work more sustainable for client and clinician alike.

What Can DBT Therapists Gain From Adding EMDR Training?

For DBT therapists weighing EMDR and DBT therapy, EMDR fills a specific gap: DBT builds life-worth-living skills and reduces behavioral instability, but was not designed to directly reprocess traumatic memories. A DBT therapist without EMDR training has limited direct options once a client has stabilized and wants to address the trauma itself. EMDR gives DBT-trained clinicians a distinct, well-supported tool for that phase of work, recommended in most major international guidelines as a first-line PTSD treatment. Adding it does not mean EMDR replaces DBT, or that every DBT client needs it; it means clinicians fluent in both have more flexibility to match treatment to what an individual client needs, rather than referring out.

Where Does This Leave Clinicians Making Sequencing Decisions Today?

Clinicians combining EMDR and DBT therapy are working somewhat ahead of the evidence, in a good-faith and clinically reasonable way. Sequential and integrated approaches have plausible rationale, some encouraging early data in a specialized BPD population, and enough practitioner experience to be worth considering for the right client. What does not yet exist is evidence that any single sequence produces better outcomes for trauma clients broadly. Sequencing should remain a clinical decision made with the client in front of you, informed by their presentation, goals, support system, and response as treatment unfolds, rather than a protocol borrowed from a population that may look different from the client in your office.

For clinicians who want direct competence in trauma processing rather than referring that work out, Scaling Up’s EMDR Basic Training provides EMDRIA-approved foundational trauma therapy skills training in the eight-phase protocol, case conceptualization, and the stabilization and resourcing skills that support safe trauma work. It is a natural next step for DBT clinicians who want trauma-processing tools in their toolbox, and for any therapist who wants another evidence-informed option when building an individualized plan around EMDR and DBT therapy. Completing Basic Training does not make a clinician competent to treat every complex trauma presentation on its own, and it is not a replacement for DBT; it is one more tool for clinicians equipped to use it well.

Kelly Smyth-Dent, LCSW

As the founder of Scaling Up EMDR, I help therapists take their trauma treatment skills to the next level through top-tier EMDR training that is as accessible as it is impactful. My mission is to equip mental health professionals with the tools they need to deliver transformative care—empowering communities, improving client outcomes, and creating a ripple effect of healing. With a passion for advancing trauma recovery, I design training experiences that set the standard for connection, safety, and equity in EMDR education. My work supports therapists in enhancing their craft while fostering professional growth and sustainability. Through Scaling Up EMDR, I aim to set the standard in mental health education by combining clinical excellence with clinician well-being.

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